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Where does one start to pick a printer?
« on: September 12, 2016, 02:51:56 AM »
Hi guys I am new to the idea of a printer but when I stumbled across the Inspire clone and this group I was interested learn more.
I have built a quad but wanted another challenge.
So if anyone can point me in the direction of where to start I would be grateful. I would like to make and build from scratch so a printer is the go.
This is also a perfect excuse to buy a new toy, correct?
I realise that printers are constantly changing but to build an Inspire would need some basics requirements.
Thanks for reading.
Newbie but keen to learn

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Re: Where does one start to pick a printer?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 02:09:28 AM »
Not sure if you ever got an answer, what budget were you thinking and how much do you want to tinker with the printer to get it dialed in?

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Re: Where does one start to pick a printer?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 01:13:41 AM »
A cheap DIY Chinese from eBay should do it. Just check the feedback of the seller regarding warranty and technical support (here you can find some support).  I built a Prusa Mendel and a Prusa I3 and paid a lot for all materials three years ago. Now you can paid about $200.00 Dollars or less for one. Also make sure that the power supply is no less than 24 amps.
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Re: Where does one start to pick a printer?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2017, 01:36:20 AM »
I have been building/printing for 7 years now (first was a Darwin).
I strongly disagree with first timers buying a cheap Chinese printer. There is a very good chance you will be very disappointed and have MANY problems.. They use crappy subpar parts that you will be changing over and over... Additionally the print quality will suffer.
They can print but I personally have seen a few that were just crap...Head over to #reprap IRC and poke around for a bit... tons of info there!

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Re: Where does one start to pick a printer?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2017, 03:17:41 AM »
As a maker, I believe that the hobby includes building my own 3D printers. Although my two 3D printers were built from scratch with cheap Chinese parts their printing quality is better than a lot of the expensive ones. That's why I made emphasis on checking the feedback left to the seller regarding warranty and technical support.

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Re: Where does one start to pick a printer?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2017, 06:37:46 PM »
My first printer I got was a CTC dual.   It was 500 at the time and now about 300.   This printer may get a bad name because it's a knock off of the makerbot printers.  But I love it.  After couple weeks playing with it. It probably prints better than most expensive printers.  I have done many mods to it like igus plastic bearings.  Lights.  Different firmware.  And some other things.  It was worth doing and enjoyed it a lot. 

I now have two of these printers.  One I got for free on accident when the company sent me more than one.

Learning to ring well can be a pain sometimes.  But reading on printing and watching multiple YouTube videos. I think I know how to print pretty good with this printer. 

This printer came pre assembled.  And free spool of filament.  Filament that it comes with is crap so I would get something else.  I did have to tighten all the screws around the printer.  It can take different types of filament like.   Pla.  Abs.  Wood.  Petg.  And some more.  You can print dual but I usually just print with a single head.   This is a pic of what a recent fine print it did.   Once you dial in your printer you are golden. 

If you want to build your printer.  I would start out with a kit printer with all parts like a prusa i3.  I don't have one but from what I heard they are good printer.  And the clone versions are cheap like 300.  The original is like 700 i think. 

Hope this helps you with a pi king out a printer. 

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Re: Where does one start to pick a printer?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2017, 08:28:36 PM »
Lots of printers about.. things have moved on quite quickly..

Need to decided what you want to print, type of materials. Your level of knowledge and budget.

PLA is the easiest material really. You don't need a hot bed to print this but you do need decent cooling.

ABS requires a hot bed and an enclosed case really to get good results. I did try printing Abs on my home built mendalmax mini but because of all the air movement around I got warping and struggled to get it to stick to the bed on corners.

You now have PETG, HIPS, Wood, Ninja flex etc.. etc all require different settings.

It's worth doing a bit of research, some printers like the XYZ 1.1plus printed ABS but can't print PLA without serious modifications.  Other things to look into are auto bed leveling. Do you have to use branded filament? Again the XYZ runs a chipped cartridge which costs can mount up if you do alot of printing.

Some people just want a printer that prints.. others like to mess, try new filaments and generally push them to the limits and beyond. 

Should be doing a few reviews soon.. it will cover things like, ease of setup, function, print quality.. upgradability etc..

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Re: Where does one start to pick a printer?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2017, 10:27:28 PM »
Hi Roscored, welcome to the forum. In the link below you can find valuable information about affordable 3D printers. It was published by the "guru" of affordable 3D printers, Mr. Josef Prusa (he is a very young geek, by the way)

http://www.prusa3d.com/original-prusa-i3-prints/?utm_source=Prusa3D.com&utm_campaign=351fbcff44-mk2_3months_eng_i3&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4199f6d18b-351fbcff44-120318161&goal=0_4199f6d18b-351fbcff44-120318161

Victor